tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post8939829154520454075..comments2024-02-14T13:04:30.499-05:00Comments on Good To Begin Well, Better To End Well: The Horrors of EugenicsAmalia Dillinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-36878096708862219232010-12-31T04:22:54.030-05:002010-12-31T04:22:54.030-05:00My cousin recommended this blog and she was totall...My cousin recommended this blog and she was totally right keep up the fantastic work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-76017135099087138522010-10-25T23:58:34.296-04:002010-10-25T23:58:34.296-04:00Thanks so much Diana! I am looking forward to comb...Thanks so much Diana! I am looking forward to combing through those websites. Well. Kind of. In that I am prepared to be horrified, but can't really stop myself from researching it anyway.<br /><br />Yeah-- it kind of scares me to think about what might have happened if Hitler hadn't scared the pants off the world. But what Hitler did also scares the pants off me. The fact that we were Amalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-33414374375039929232010-10-21T22:57:08.151-04:002010-10-21T22:57:08.151-04:00Fascinating. I look forward to hearing more about ...Fascinating. I look forward to hearing more about your research. I did a paper on Eugenics and the Native American population. Horrific things happened well into the 1970's. You're right. This subject isn't talked about enough. <br /><br />I did a quick google search, and thought these articles might interest you:<br /><br />http://www.truth-it.net/native_american_eugenics.html<br /><Diana Pazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04368186068872293410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-91274290928707913692010-10-21T21:51:07.524-04:002010-10-21T21:51:07.524-04:00Thanks for sharing this.
Good luck with Nanowrim...Thanks for sharing this. <br /><br />Good luck with Nanowrimo!Cat Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14160039271069426174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-38936959740129915922010-10-21T17:51:32.355-04:002010-10-21T17:51:32.355-04:00"There is enough food and land on this world ..."There is enough food and land on this world to feed everyone... Overpopulation is a myth."<br />I guess you can't see that ocean fish are being fished into extinction. Or that entire ecosystems are continuously being threatened and destroyed to create more farmland and more housing.<br />You probably can't see that from on top of your pile of 89c cheeseburgers.<br />Other Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-13771494270736466832010-10-20T09:05:19.707-04:002010-10-20T09:05:19.707-04:00Hey now-- Respectfully, please!
Tom: In a perfect...Hey now-- Respectfully, please!<br /><br />Tom: In a perfect world everyone would only have the number of children they could take care of effectively--we would all self-regulate reproduction in a reasonable manner (if I have x number of children, I will no longer be able to feed and clothe all of them, or give them the attention they need, so maybe I should stop at x-1). In a perfect world we Amalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-46556311778417418572010-10-20T07:36:06.509-04:002010-10-20T07:36:06.509-04:00Wow, reproduction should be controlled? lmao, that...Wow, reproduction should be controlled? lmao, thats so wrong. There is enough food and land on this world to feed everyone. <br /><br />Overpopulation is a myth. The Malthusian ceiling is not because of overpopulation, its because of illness, disease, or mismanagement.<br /><br />Its shameful that people like Anonymous can't afford to look any farther than their own myopic media outlets and Thomas Halenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-58079202572302670712010-10-19T19:10:22.940-04:002010-10-19T19:10:22.940-04:00All I can think of when I consider genetic enginee...All I can think of when I consider genetic engineering is how we are all going to be really sorry when we eliminate fat reserves and the next ice age hits.<br /><br />But I don't think we're capable of creating a no exemptions or exceptions system for population control. Money talks. We'd have to be living in a Utopia or something.Amalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-49516852563634640352010-10-19T19:08:05.138-04:002010-10-19T19:08:05.138-04:00Yes. That's why there should be no exemptions ...Yes. That's why there should be no exemptions or exceptions. Not a less diverse population, just less population.<br />Which I know is off the subject a bit.<br />Back to the topic:<br />Eugenics is inherently flawed but I do wish <i>I</i> had been genetically engineered.<br />I blame my parents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-5302382061037000152010-10-19T18:57:46.835-04:002010-10-19T18:57:46.835-04:00I won't deny that I have had similar feelings-...I won't deny that I have had similar feelings-- but controlling reproduction by eliminating diversity based on a flawed or uninformed idea of what is "desirable" or "undesirable" will have a negative effect on the population. Period. Who is to say when we will need the diversity provided by some trait which we believed to be "undesirable" at a later date? Amalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-36321121648647624052010-10-19T18:04:03.662-04:002010-10-19T18:04:03.662-04:00Reproduction should be controlled.
Every person sh...Reproduction should be controlled.<br />Every person should be allowed 1 child. When you are born you get a ticket, which cannot be exchanged or sold. Upon successful reproduction with another person the biological father and mother each use 1/2 of their ticket. They can go on to use the other 1/2 with any other person but after that, no more children from them.<br />Ideally, people would see theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-72490550947253980172010-10-19T16:12:13.175-04:002010-10-19T16:12:13.175-04:00Mia: I'm glad to hear it! And I hope you'l...Mia: I'm glad to hear it! And I hope you'll correct me if I make any errors along the way here as I get deeper in to my research. I might need you for a reference :)<br /><br />Saranna: I'm going out on a limb for my NaNo this year. we'll see how it works out! I think Eugenics is one of those things that really needs to be spotlighted and isn't getting the attention it should.Amalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-24096621215732096332010-10-19T16:02:31.260-04:002010-10-19T16:02:31.260-04:00I'm not so sure Eugenics is gone. Today, there...I'm not so sure Eugenics is gone. Today, there are genetic tests for children en utero, and if the result is positive...True, these are for horrible diseases like Tay-Sachs, but what if they find a way to test for mental illness or being prone to heart attacks? Will people choose to end those pregnancies because their children will "suffer?" And in China, the tests for gender have J E Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03372746219262163566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-53785756938953245272010-10-19T15:29:22.831-04:002010-10-19T15:29:22.831-04:00Oh, color me fascinated with your NaNo project.
Y...Oh, color me fascinated with your NaNo project.<br /><br />Yes, there are a lot of horrors that we've perpetrated on the masses here in the US, but it's not as widely discussed. We discussed it briefly in my history class in HS, but only because one of the students brought it up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17774647553760700746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-57917457859588282922010-10-19T14:43:14.658-04:002010-10-19T14:43:14.658-04:00Amalia, I am SO SO SO SO glad that you covered thi...Amalia, I am SO SO SO SO glad that you covered this extensively. For my course we had to do a fair amount of studying of old Psychological practices. <b>Not</b> so we would repeat them or anything, quite the opposite. Ethics is really important in Psychology today.<br /><br /><br />Anyhoodles I'm really glad you covered it extensively because a lot of people are vaguely aware of the horrors Mia Haysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01041441666482084762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-78811480748863304162010-10-19T14:31:12.817-04:002010-10-19T14:31:12.817-04:00Stephanie: If you're mentioning it in your his...Stephanie: If you're mentioning it in your history classes, you're a step ahead of mine. We didn't touch anything near to it-- in fact, I only learned about Eugenics recently on my own, when I read a reference to it as a "Bastard science" in another article. So good on you for teaching about it even in passing!<br /><br />Tina: That is the stuff nightmares are made of. I doAmalia Dillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13005039978668326144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-56616937927155567932010-10-19T12:34:08.364-04:002010-10-19T12:34:08.364-04:00Anything that threatens human diversity terrifies ...Anything that threatens human diversity terrifies me. Just the word eugenics sends chills down my spine and relegating it to history, WWII and Hitler is burying our head in the sand. We have to be aware. <br /><br />I'm already intrigued by your new project and you haven't even started writing yet!VR Barkowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927993233682731113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-5340727598707889272010-10-19T08:07:18.481-04:002010-10-19T08:07:18.481-04:00I studied this not too long ago when I did a paper...I studied this not too long ago when I did a paper on Ethnic Cleansing. The subject became a real hot topic around here especially because of the human genome project. There were those on the ethics panel that feared how the information obtained from mapping the genome would be used. And for good reason. Many people are unaware that Eugenics sparked Hitler's interest. Many who don't know Tina Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05914428134837892539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5458380.post-15487961739352046462010-10-19T00:33:24.471-04:002010-10-19T00:33:24.471-04:00I mention Eugenics when I teach about WWII, but I&...I mention Eugenics when I teach about WWII, but I'm definitely intrigued to hear how this plays into your NaNo story. It's something not talked about enough- one of those instances in history we definitely don't want to repeat.Stephanie Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17437077559099315853noreply@blogger.com